Sunday, April 02, 2006

Discussing Creationism Part VIII

For the past 7 Sundays, I have been talking about the reality of Noah and the flood.

Discussing Creationism: The Initial Argument
Part II: Two Questions about the Ark
Part III:The Volume of the Ark
Part IV: The Weight and Sturdiness of the Ark
Part V:What is a Myth

Part VI: Gilgamesh
Part VII: The Biblical View of Noah

There was another question put forward and that is "How could Noah possibly have gathered all the animals from all over the world?"

Genesis 6:19-20 "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ar, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive."

What does this passage say?
That the animals came unto Noah.
This seems impossible to us today because we are not used to the different relationship that existed between man and animals then. Animals did not fear man. Read Gen 9:2-4, where the trusting relationship between man and animal turned to fear.
As well, we know that animals instinctively know what to do when disaster is looming.


cranky old fart said...

So everyone, including animals, were vegetarian?

Barbara said...

I saw on the news that some guy is building an arc!

Carol said...

Yes, COF, that is what the Bible says.

Barbara, yes, I saw a picture of it but the dimensions were smaller than the original.


I honestly do not understand how on earth could Noah fit all those animals in his arc but I do believe that when God says you can you can. His will be done.

J. Andrew Lockhart said...

I'm like friday's child --- let God be God

Carol said...

J. Andrew and Friday's Child,
Yes, ultimately, this is God's creation. How wonderful to be assured of that fact!

Trying to understand His creation better by dealing logically and scientifically with the earthly evidences as well as with what is in the Bible is a worthwhile study. It should all fit together, like a good mystery novel which can't be put down.

Carol said...

Sorry, I didn't give you a scripture for the animals not eating meat before the flood.
See Genesis 1:29-30
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so."

Su said...

There were much fewer species of animals in that day. Kind of similar to different people types nowadays, so many colours, skin tones, hair textures, body shapes etc. When God created the first couple he put in them all the possible genetic possibilities for all people groups that we have on earth now, plus the potential for even more.... God is amazing. Same for dogs, horses, frogs and all animals, and all past and future animals.

We have this strange idea that Noah took one of each type of everything that lives TODAY. Not true, he only needed one of each 'kind' so that the potential for them to procreate would be in place. Then, depending on where they travelled to in the world, they would adapt and change and ... now we have so many different adaptations of dogs, cats, horses etc. Quite simple really, and no need for Darwin. If you like, you can call it amendments to genes but within it's own 'kind' to use Biblical language. Everything after it's own 'kind'.

My Indian dad and Finnish mum are very very different. But, they still ended up with four human children! We all have our own unique colourings etc, as do our children. And so for the animals in the ark!

Aurora said...

Su, you bring up a very important point about the meaning of the word "kind".

Carol said...

I haven't heard this idea about all the genetic combinations being present in the first people and animals before. Thanks for presenting this different possibility.

I agree that it doesn't sound possible that all the animals that exist now were present on the ark.

Yes, I agree with Aurora as well, I like your definition of the word "kind".

This is getting into the next part of the discussion.

Su said...

Oh goody! You're doing a grand job! I love reading your creation blogs. Always brings out new insights into God's wonderful world. Thanks.
Dr Walter J Veith has some really interesting perspectives on creation, evolution and other 'beginnings' bits and bobs. Check out his site.

Carol said...

I feel encouraged by your words. Thank you.
Thanks for the site, too!